vajrapani

Thanks for your enlightened comment and information.

About the sensual mundane actions of humans on the outerwalls of the Temples:

Sex is not taboo in Hinduism -in christianity the birth of Christ is assoicated with virgin Mary- these depictions are only in some select temples but not in all. Its is nothing but part of sex education. That's the reason such temples were built in outskirts in deep forests and made a tourist spot.

M F Husain is a hater of idolworship. We can see the traces of Aurangzeb in him! Yes he is against idolworship and basically hater of woman worship. These lead him to potray such paintings selectively on Hindu icons.

KrishnaBaalu

Dear Krishnabaaluji

You are very right when you said the media pressure psychosis even affets the judges. That is true. Apart from that, because of the lack of proper perspective and education in cultural aspects most of the western educated class have little or no understanding of Hindu culture.

There are indeed depiections of mundane activity on outer walls of the temple complexes, naturally sensuality is not excluded. But the real secret of why this is done is to tell people that there is something more important than all these - the Deity Himself/Herself! It is for this reason that Hindus pilgrims enter the temple and proceed to straight to have Darshan of the Lord in the innermost chamber - the "Heart", rather than wander here and there along the walls. This is in sharp contrast to the westerners (or western styled Indians) who spend time looking at the figurines and fail to see the Deity!

Further to this, there is a specific standard and protocol in temple art. The three Mothers, Laxmi- Saraswati-Parvati are subject of highest veneration in Hindu tradition. Sita is Laxmi. What MF has depicted is his evil invention, there is no parallel to that in Hindu tradition. Sita was brought back by Lord Ram Himself, and not by Hanuman. Sita was never carried by Hanuman. Even when Lord Ram rode on Hanuman, he would sit on his shoulders. What  MF depicts is a lie, distorsion and outright insult to the great tolerant mother society in which he lives in. MF paintings are patently vicious. India has always nurtured talent and has been tolerant, the court may have let him off, but Karma will not leave him:

"Kritaghnaghnaaya Devaaya Ruchai Lokasakshine" says the Aditya Hridayam. MF will surely get his punishment for kicking the breast that fed him.

Regards
Vajrapani

Sulabh

Thanks for your visit and concern expressed. The unfortunate happening is the Media pressure psychosis is even working on Judiciary!

KrishnaBaalu

Would this judge make the similar observation, if somebody paints him mounting a PIG or
Mohmed or jesus in sexual union with a bitch,?


Freedom or expression and art is only for those who oppose/ridcule Hinduism.

Fareena Raza

You just spoke the truth. At the outset GF has no business to poke his nose here. Neither he is a Hindu nor probably Indian.

As you correctly said the figures on Temples are not GODS or GODESSES but ordinary humans.

There is no fundamentalism among Hindus. Fundamentalism is very much prevalent among non-Hindus particularly among Muslims. These so called self styled Intellecuals and Marxists have neither moral courage nor inner perception to take on fundamentalism and blasphemy irrespective of minortiy or majority divide.

well said!

KRISHNA BAALU

Begum Raza, This masked dude 'GF' is acting "as if Hinduism is his "own private property"!
He goes the Hindus "define Hinduism in their own terms, which is acceptable," so what is the problem? Anyways, who is he to decide what is acceptable and what is not?
Then,, he contradicts himself as if now they are NOT acceptable, saying:=
"but they go further, and they go too far, in trying to enforce their version of Hinduism on all Hindus."  It is not their version darn it!! It is the common decency that no God whosoever it is must be depicted as an obscene object  like jesus or mary in the nude!

To quote Begum Raza:= "It is not your place to utter stinky comments that are quite unwelcome and jarring even for an Indian like me setting aside a person like you who is not an Indian!! ..  If defending their culture" is what fundamentalism is, then "India needs more such fundamentalists not any fewer."

Like Miriam Madam said, no one from outside can interfere in the religious traditions of any faith. Knowing there is moral decadence in the West, how can I abuse it to paint jesus in the nude or with genital erection on the cross?!!! I visualize such a jesus after "resurrection"  lying in mary'slap!! And I am tempted to draw it and post in the web!!!

Even the most liberal dstandard of artistic liberty would disallow that sort of blasphemy; those who protest cant be accused of  "cultural bigotry" nor "moral vigilantism."

"GF", All these observation such as your lines: "...common among the Hindus. Women in pre-Islamic Hindu art were frequently dipicted naked above the waist and often also below the waist     .. "  mean nothing.  They are all totally meaningless. It is like my telling some German girl, she should wear Indian saree!  It is the individual and group choice not the choice of hateful aliens like you with malicious agenda.

Same way, in their country, they get to decide what they should do or wear or allow in their midst. You and I have no say in those matters.  So, you better keep off!  It is not your place to utter stinky comments that are quite unwelcome and jarring even for an India like me setting aside a person like you who is not an Indian!! 

There are no HIndu fundamentalists for your information anywhere !!! If defending their culture is what they are doing, India needs more such fundamentalists not any fewer.

The nudes in the temples are not Godesses but ordinary humans who are being told that sex is sacred.  No where you will find Godesses being depicted in the nude. Even then, it is their internal matter like only Blacks of America can use the n-word not you and me. 

What part of of Hinduism you dont understand?!  'Are you an Indian? What right you have in meddling in the internal matters of Indians?  Coz you can understand, stay away from matters not in your purview!! Stop poking your dirty nose in others' affairs!! 

     Look at Hindu art prior to the invasion of the Moghuls during the medieval period, and you will see that before the Moslems came and forcibly influenced Hindu culture, nudity in art and and in daily life was common among the Hindus. Women in pre-Islamic Hindu art were frequently dipicted naked above the waist and often also below the waist.
     Actually the fear and taboo on nakedness in art and in life was introduced by the Moslems, and it is not really a Hindu tradition. You can thank the Moslems for the purdah; why would Hindus want to emulate the puritanical, narrow-minded, and life-denying taboos of the Moslems?
     Hindus, if you don't want to dominated by the Moslems, why do you imitate their fear and hatred of the human form, which was not a part of Hindu culture before the Moslems invaded India?   -- GF

     Hindu extremists act as if Hinduism were their own private property. They define Hinduism in their own terms, which is acceptable, but they go further, and they go too far, in trying to enforce their version of Hinduism on all Hindus.
     They ignore the fact that Hindu artists have portrayed the Hindu gods as nudes in the past and in the present. Hindu artists who paint their gods in the nude get a free pass from the extremists, at least so far.
     Let the Hindu extremists control Indian society and you will have government by the narrow-minded zealots, just as you have in Pakistan. It is not Hinduism that the Hindu extremists promote, but their own narrow-minded and bigoted interpretation of Hinduism.   -- GF

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